Q1 To dwell in the house of the Lord is to be closed to God. To spend time with Him; reading His word, pray and walk His word constantly. Q2 To seek His face means to gaze upon His holiness and glory. How can i see a God who is holy and awesome unless i pursuit holiness and glorify His name. Q3 By God's grace, put our trusts in God and wait patiently for Him to show us the way. He will forever give us hope & lead us to eternity. These are the writer's views
1) Dwelling in the House of the Lord. When David used the word "Temple" he mean" the presence of the Lord. His greatest desire was to live in God's presence each day of His life.
Sadly,we who claimed to be His disciple hardly really desire to live in God's presence each day and not being able to enjoy that relationship with our Heavenly Father.
2)Seek the face of the Lord, it mean an "expression of devotion". To go past the veil into the holy of Holies and have a personal audience with the Lord. to have a personal desire for intimacy with the Almighty, seeking a personal hearing before the Lord Himself.
In the old testament, Moses wanted or asked to see God's face; in the end he could only catch a glimpse of His back as He passes by. If i may ask why is that so. Anyone who see God's face would die at that time. But not now. The veil is "torn" into two pieces in the temple when Jesus breath HIs last breathe as Man-God. Jesus's blood has cleansed us from all unrighteousness and we can see God face to face without reservation. I think Yap; you should extend your blog to Fah Wang & Xian Qing as i think they may be able to provide greater insights. Again, writer is basing on what i could recall from reading the bible.
Thank you for your suggestion. Yes, this blog and on-line bible study is open for all YCKGHist. I hope this platform could be a forum where we share our learning and insight.
What you mentioned in Moses case and the way the Psalter described "Your Face, Lord, I Will Seek (27:7-12)" is of two different context.
To "seek the face" of the Lord. "Seek" (baqash) comes from a root that connotes a person's earnest seeking of something or someone. Its intention is that its object be found or acquired (Deuteronomy 4:29; Jeremiah 29:13; Malachi 3:1).
The expression "seek the face of" means (of a human ruler) to seek an audience with, (of God), it means to seek his presence
I will discuss your question "in old testament one who see God's face would die at that time."
Please see detail reference material sent.
Welcome to our class for discusion or wait for the answers to be posted coming week.
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大卫的时代,圣殿还没有建造,但这是大卫最大的心愿,就是为耶和华建造圣殿,自已能够住在这圣殿内与神亲近,因为他看到现在他所爱的耶和华只是在会幕里.是他不能接受的.
一个渴慕与神亲近的心愿
一个希望能为神做事的心
一个荣耀神,合神心意的生活
应该是称的上是住在神殿巴
大卫虽有心愿为神造圣殿.但神却不要他建造,大卫也接受了神的决定,并顺服.
应该是称的上寻求他的脸.
思想4-6节与耶和华的殿的一些得着。共享之！
住在圣殿中描绘了一副图画，是一个人在敬拜上帝，他坐在圣殿中，在一段很长的时间，思想面对的患难，更寻求明白上帝的道路。
因此，这些字是生命态度的一幅图画。我们继续读下去：看到在第六节「现在……」诗人默想上帝与坚信耶和华，诗人就说：无论遭任何困难攻击，他知道与上帝同行，站稳信仰的意思是什么。他知道耶和华是掌管万有的主，历史也在他手中，所以诗人说：「现在我得以昂首，高过我的仇敌！」
诗人从他的经历中更深刻的看到上帝的爱和应许。所以，他每日的生活都有一首诗歌在他心中。
我的祈求是愿学习大卫，在我们生活的每一天，无论顺境，逆境我们都能唱首感恩赞美的歌。
Q1 To dwell in the house of the Lord is to be closed to God. To spend time with Him; reading His word, pray and walk His word constantly.
Q2 To seek His face means to gaze upon His holiness and glory. How can i see a God who is holy and awesome unless i pursuit holiness and glorify His name.
Q3 By God's grace, put our trusts in God and wait patiently for Him to show us the way. He will forever give us hope & lead us to eternity.
These are the writer's views
In response to Anonymous:
1) Dwelling in the House of the Lord. When David used the word "Temple" he mean" the presence of the Lord. His greatest desire was to live in God's presence each day of His life.
Sadly,we who claimed to be His disciple hardly really desire to live in God's presence each day and not being able to enjoy that relationship with our Heavenly Father.
2)Seek the face of the Lord, it mean an "expression of devotion". To go past the veil into the holy of Holies and have a personal audience with the Lord. to have a personal desire for intimacy with the Almighty, seeking a personal hearing before the Lord Himself.
1)“住在耶和华的殿中“ 就是诚心诚意的在耶和华面前“敬拜他”。耶和华的殿也可能是指天堂。
2)”寻求祂的脸“就是与他面对面的交流，是一种双向的交通。
3)最后他胆敢来到神的面前是因为他存着盼望耶和华的日子来到，也就是耶稣基督的日子。
穆春
In the old testament, Moses wanted or asked to see God's face; in the end he could only catch a glimpse of His back as He passes by. If i may ask why is that so. Anyone who see God's face would die at that time. But not now. The veil is "torn" into two pieces in the temple when Jesus breath HIs last breathe as Man-God. Jesus's blood has cleansed us from all unrighteousness and we can see God face to face without reservation. I think Yap; you should extend your blog to Fah Wang & Xian Qing as i think they may be able to provide greater insights. Again, writer is basing on what i could recall from reading the bible.
Hi Anonymous
Thank you for your suggestion. Yes, this blog and on-line bible study is open for all YCKGHist. I hope this platform could be a forum where we share our learning and insight.
What you mentioned in Moses case and the way the Psalter described "Your Face, Lord, I Will Seek (27:7-12)" is of two different context.
To "seek the face" of
the Lord. "Seek" (baqash) comes from a root that connotes a person's earnest seeking of something or someone. Its intention is
that its object be found or acquired (Deuteronomy 4:29; Jeremiah
29:13; Malachi 3:1).
The expression "seek the face of"
means (of a human ruler) to seek an audience with, (of God), it
means to seek his presence
I will discuss your question "in old testament one who see God's face would die at that time."
Please see detail reference material sent.
Welcome to our class for discusion or wait for the answers to be posted coming week.
Paul
当我再次思想到“寻求他的脸”时，忽然联想到诗篇42篇有一句“因他笑脸帮助我”。这里让我们更加明白到为什么要寻求他的脸。因为他就是我们的答案。我们有烦恼，他给我们喜乐，我们有困难，他是我们的帮助。他喜悦我们时常来到他的面前，每时每刻寻求他的脸.
穆春
联想的好，下星期我们就是要感受诗人的喜和忧，乐与悲。
Hi 你把问题问得好，礼拜好好讨论。
不过，你把问题放在课文的论坛，我差点就没看到。下次请放在问题的部分。
无名小弟答得也好。不过你们看看英问圣经，答案就出现了。
问题老头问题多，理清思想笑呵呵，
还有几处不明了，怎么办，咱大锅？
1.住在耶和华的殿里
圣殿在哪里？能否理解成圣灵常驻我心？
2.为我仇敌的缘故引导我走平坦的路。
生命中怎能离开神的带领？无论何时何处。请问： “为我仇敌的缘故”是否有特别的背景或更深的含义？
3.在活人之地，我可以看见耶和华的恩惠。
恩惠包含物质、金钱吗？我们该如何祷告？
二锅三锅别闲着，大家一齐来思索。
小弟简单的浅见如下：
1)耶稣曾经说过，你们要常在我里面，我也常在你们里面 (约15：4)。可以理解为我们要在他的殿里，圣灵也在我们的心殿。两者应该有所不同。
2)仇敌应该解为魔鬼的逼迫与试探。主祷文就有一句“不叫我们遇见试探”，求神引导我们走平坦的道路。当时大卫可能在逼迫与试探时写下这句话。
3)耶和华的恩惠包括属世的恩惠与属灵的恩惠。主祷文也教导我们可以为肉身需要祈求。但属灵的恩惠是更高层次，有平安，喜乐，未来的盼望等。我们应该为属世的需要祈求，也不可忽略属灵的需要.
For those who read English, I found a blog that go indepth in discussing Pslm 27. You might want to take a look.
http://paultrippministries.blogspot.com/2008/02/psalm-27-fearless-forever.html
1.“住在耶和华的殿中“ 就是可以住在这圣殿内在耶和华面前“敬拜他”。
2.“寻求祂的脸”就是要与上帝面对面，与上帝同在。我们要委身遵行神的道。 3.大卫相信在活人之地，可以看见耶和华的恩惠。而且会以刚强，坚定的心等候耶和华。 星兴晓清
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